LIVED DOMESTICITIES
Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Team Torvald(Nov. 27 in-class post)
In response to this post, please state why do you think Torvald, in Ibsen's A Doll's House, is a sympathetic character? Be sure to provide specific examples in MLA format in your response. You may use information you've included in your post on Act I for this activity.
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I think that Torvald is a sympathetic character because he is very delicate in the way he treats his wife. I also think he is a very understandable man with very good moral manners and gentle.
ReplyDeleteHe is a sympathetic character because he is always worried about his family well-being.
The first thing that comes to mind is what happened when Torvalt was very ill due to the cold weather. Nora says that although he was near his death, Torvalt did not want to travel to a country with a warmer climate because he knew it was not what Nora would've wanted if he were healthy. This tells me that Torvalt cares more about his wife's satisfaction and happiness than his own safety.
ReplyDeleteHis love for her is also shown all around the first play. The way he speaks to her, treats her and behaves with her also reveals his love for her. It also seems like he has a need to protect his wife from corruption by supporting her child-like characteristics.
In addition, I think Torvalt is a good character becauses of his beliefs. His righteousness is revealed when he speaks to Nora about how wrong is to forge someone's signature and most importatly, how immoral it is to lie and sneak around. I respect that a lot. Not only does Torvalt have these great qualities and beliefs but he is also not afraid to express them.
I think Torvald is more sympathetic. I think this because he understands his role as a husband to provide, and still he even though he does this, he still hands money over to Nora when she wants. for example after he told her that she can't live on loans cause what is something happens and they can't pay it back, he notices her pout and hands her money to spend on Christmas.
ReplyDeleteTorvald is a very sympathetic character. His gentleness and kind efforts to support his child like wife Nora although she drives him crazy at times. Nora gets away with many things and uses all the money but Torvald knowing this doesnt really take action but instead scolds her like a child and corrects her moves. He is making things gendered and states “Nora, my Nora, that is just like a woman”. He believes that because shes female that money is blown and spent by all women while the men provide. He could be more serious and charge taking but instead is laid back and gently speaks his mind. The moment his wife feels sad or angry he will fall into her demands. Sympathetic for sure
ReplyDeleteTorvald, in Ibsen's A Doll's House, is a sympathetic character. He takes care of his finance wisely and provide everything his family needs. Torvald understands his wife lack of understanding of money, but yet keeps giving her money so she can take care of the house, he makes the money, she waste the money.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that Torvald deserves a lot more sympathy than Nora does. Nora seems to be interested in the materialistic things in life. In the beginning of the play, she returns home from Christmas shopping and seems to be very careless with Torvald's money.
ReplyDelete"PORTER: Fifty ore.
NORA: There is a crown. No, keep the change." (2)
"HELMER: Nora, what do you think I've got here?
NORA: Money!
HELMER: There! (Gives her some notes.) Of course I know all sorts of things are wanted at Christmas.
NORA: (counting.) Ten, twenty, thirty, forty. Oh!" (4)
I believe that Torvald is more of a sympathetic character because he treats her like child. Even so, he is the one that provides for her, while she doe not work. But she still is very manipulative constantly wanting more and more money. He's aware of he spoiled and self-centered personality, but he still chooses to indulge her. That shows to some extent he does care about her happiness.
ReplyDeleteHe also has righteous and constantly tells Nora how it's wrong to constantly borrow money and such. Torvald also has higher moral standards. It's a shame that he's being manipulated by a pretty face, while he's losing all of his hard earned money.
Im my response I agree that Torvald is the sympathetic charcter to whom I can relate and feel sorry for. Torvald being the financial supporter for the family and specificall y for his wife Nora shows he is hardworking, caring, loving, father-husband. Despite his hard work Nora seems to mistreat him when it comes to money because she comes out to be sort of stubburn and selfish when the money being made isnt even hers. Tarvold should deserve a little more respect and honor for his hard work. And to be honest he has much pacience for her and her greety personality.
ReplyDeleteEven though Torvald may not be the sweetest husband, I sypathize with him through Act I. He appears to be the type of guy how lives cautiously and knows not to take things for granted. Torvald displays this when he says, "Just suppose that I borrowed a thousand kroner today, and you spent it all on Christmas, and then on New Year's Eve a roof tile fell on my head and killed me, and-"(Ibsen 1121). He doesnt want to take the chance that something could happen to jeopardize their financial situation.
ReplyDeletecontinued comment:.... I can support this by the way she ask Torvald "NORA: No one has such good taste as you. And I really want to look nice at the fancydress ball. Torvald, couldn't you take me in hand and decided what I should go as and what kind of costume I should wear?". She was trying to pursue Trovald to go so that he can end up paying for her dress. WHich proves her greety ways.
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